Zan Perrion
You’ve been considered one of the greatest Naturals with women. When did you realize you could teach this stuff to other guys?
Well, I have always been interested in the way men and women interact. So in essence, I have been “teaching” friends for a long time. When most guys were talking about sports, for instance, I was interested in women. So I was always the guy my friends would come to for advice. Most guys who we would consider “natural” have no idea what it is they are doing, so they don’t know how to teach it. When asked, they simply say, “I don’t know… just be yourself!”. I guess where you could say I am different is that I have an ability to describe the subtleties of subcommunication with women in a way that men instantly understand.
Is it possible for other guys to become naturals?
Yes. I have been saying for years that every man who is “natural” with women is that way because he learned it. He learned how to be comfortable and curious in the company of women. We always hear that we need to change ourselves, but the truth is, we need to be more of ourselves – fully engaged.
What is enlightened seduction and what does it look like?
The word “seduction” has received a bad rap for years. Like it is some kind of deception or subversion. And yet, it is what we are missing! We don’t seduce our wives anymore, we don’t seduce our girlfriends anymore. We just exist side by side with them. We all want to be seduced, to be introduced to passion and adventure. This is the essence of “enlightened seduction”.
You’re one of the few pick up artists who really emphasizes the importance of love. Could you share with us a little bit about this?
Well, I believe in love. I believe in romance. And I believe in relationships. I have never been the guy who is teaching approaching, or how to “harvest phone numbers”. I have always been interested in the “date” – what makes us connect, and what is the nature of “chemistry”. I don’t believe in artificial structures that society demands that we should wrap around our relationships. I believe in “ease and delight” in our relationships. The problem is that we make long term promises on short term relationships.
Where are some of your favorite places to meet women and why?
Women are everywhere! I never “go out” to meet women. Most of the women I discover are in the every day routine of life – waitresses, bank tellers, etc. If you are engaging to everyone you meet, women will love you.
What is one key thing concept or idea guys neglect to take into account when interacting with a women?
To stop being so serious. This is one of the biggest mistakes a guy can make when interacting with a woman. We think we should look mature and confident and non-needy to her, and so we put on an air of “coolness” and become aloof. So we act serious. Big mistake! You should never, ever be serious with a woman you just met.
For a beginner reading this, what would be the best way to get started on the journey of becoming good with women?
First, ask yourself what it is you really want. We never really ask ourselves this question. Get up in the morning, and say “Who am I today, and what do I want my life to look like? What do I really want from a woman?”
If someone wanted to take advantage of your services and products, how would they go about doing so?
I do seminars and one-on-one coaching, and I have a telephone mentoring program that is very successful. All information can be obtained by going to my website www.zanperrion.com and my forum at www.naturalgame.com
Thank you so much for your time Zan
It has been my pleasure!

















