Vince Kelvin

vince-kelvin-2Vince, tell us a little bit about yourself.

Let me first thank you Briddick for the opportunity to do this interview, what you’re doing here with your group is really awesome…and as far as myself…

Well…I like long walks on the beach, and sunsets…LOL! Seriously, I specialize in providing guys with full spectrum resources for a complete manhood make-over, BEYOND PICKUP, the whole life-change! From inner game to bedroom escalation, day game to sexual acceleration, V.I.P. night game to even improvisation classes for pickup and seduction, you’re love, sex, and overall-life will never be the same, we cover it all from a to z! We even address all the surrounding areas to create a truly successful lifestyle as a powerful, social, fun, sexy man, such as time-efficiency, professional progress, spirituality, etc!

At what point in your life did you decide you wanted to become a pick up artist?

Long before the term PUA, or “community” was ever used, LOL! After hitting a traumatic rock bottom at all levels, in 1990 I started studying self-improvement like a maniac, then began to teach a variety of self-help courses in Colleges around L.A., and sure enough, within a few years, all areas of my life were starting to come together nicely, mentally, spiritually, professionally, EXCEPT…with women!!! I WAS SO STUCK AND FRUSTRATED!

But by 1994, after the longest drought ever…I got fed-up feeling helpless and decided to forever change that! Even though I had done rather well with girls through my mid to late teens, mainly because of the fact that I was a rock musician and then tattoo artist, both automatically tend to come with crazy babes, I couldn’t seem to recover from the hell I had gone though after spontaneously marrying a wild party chick in Vegas, and finding myself stuck into the most chaotic relationship ever, that ended tragically when she passed away at a very young age!

I was beyond approach anxiety, I had a total relationships PHOBIA! So as for pretty much every guy, it was THE UNBEARABLE PAIN AND FRUSTRATION OF SEXUAL STARVATION, AND THAT EMPTINESS THAT COMES WITH LONELINESS that got me started with this incredible journey!!!

And the pain was so great, it created so much drive, close to two decades after, I am today even more exited about it than ever, spending even more time taking guys in the field than ever, and now being of service to others, and sharing the healing…with men in 28 countries and over 200 U.S. cities!

And I understand you’re married now.  What was your life like up until this point and what did it take for a woman to take you off the market?

Well, let’s put it middly, I certainly made up for those four years of frustration, LOL!!! Early on in my career as a pickup coach, my trade mark was “There’s always plenty juicy quality pussy available…”, and it certainly became the case for me, from an LTR with a renown porn star, to at one point over 30 women in just 3 months, IT’S BEEN WILD!

Yet I never really did it based on numbers, it was always more about FULLFILEMENT! Sure, at first, when you discover what you can really do, we all as men have a common tendency to want to make up for the lost years, or if still young enough to not have waisted time, be the one that gets the most lays, and that’s OK!

Yet eventually, deep down inside, it is really about honoring yourself as a man with whatever may best meet your needs at the time, and to do so from a place of possibilities rather than a place of trying to prove something to yourself, or others, because that in itself sends you right back into being too needy and dependent, which lowers your attraction and charisma!

And what made me want to exclusively be with my wife and let go of the many multiple women I was managing at the time, is that I right away recognized within her the unique ability to fulfill the four core needs we all have, as we teach in our “Multi-Dimmensional Lover” System, and as we recommend the men who take the Multi-Dimmensional Man” Training, focus on women who stimulate you not only physically, but also intellectually, emotionally, and have their lives together…Of course, you must be the masculine equivalent of that first!!!

What are the fundamentals of your teachings?

First, most guys don’t know that there’s a crucial difference between how men and women experience attraction and arousal and act on it! For us men, let’s face it, we’re so easy…we’re even ready to f#%k women we don’t even know, LOL! So from the start there’s a gap, that without the proper understanding and tools, will drive us crazy, not understanding why she so seemed to be into it, but never called again! So using our Female Arousal Model of Escalation (F.A.M.E.), we help you match and then lead her own way to go from attraction to bedroom action and such levels of mutual satisfaction, that it could lead to more!

To do that, we help you apply DUAL DIRECTION GAME…Why limit ourself to only one way to approach and fall into the old “direct vs indirect debate”, when both combined will be even more potent since together they align perfectly with what women do themselves…If you pay close attention to it, they tend to keep on alternating…For example, they directly tell you they have a boy friend, but then go on to indirectly give you little indications of interest…

And in the long-run, we help you address the 3rd main problem for most guys, which is to be more versatile than most men who are too uni-dimensional! 

This in a nut-shell, is the basic structure of the wealth of options we offer, and with all humility needed, I must genuinely say that being the fact that I’ve been at it since 1990, I’ve gathered, experimented with, and created so much material, it is nearly impossible to anticipate just how rich the multitude of resources you can get from us are… 

And we have such variety in our team of trainers, including Puppy, our top female instructor, a total prodigy on the topic, Amy my wife handles the Fashion for Attraction branch of our company, and all the guys like Eduardo and Artisian who are like machines in the field, and can do same night pull on most given day…

How important is inner game compared to outer game when seducing women?

We use a system called C4, which is pure dynamite to assist you to calibrate what most essential aspect of your game really needs to improve and how, and also helps you to understand how they are inter-dependent and each one can be a doorway to progress. It was my dear buddy Don Diego Garcia from Stylelife who underlined at the PUA World Summit we put together each year, that you can improve your outter game by addressing your inner game and vice-versa, no amount of inner work will ever be fully beneficial without field practice, and of course, being in the field will come and flow much more naturally when your inner game is in gear, as we teach on our UNLEASH THE NATURAL WITHIN, INNER GAME MASTERY SYSTEM program…

Here’s a sample of the C4 System…To best answer your question…

The 1st C stands for CORE: Whatever the method, for it to work, you must be solid at the core!  2nd C equals COMMUNICATION: Delivery is key, and is also greatly dependent of your core!  3rd C is for CONTENT: To get more than the “average guy”, it helps to be more original than him!  4th one focuses on CONTINUATION: You wont get it if you don’t lead her into it!

All 4 Cs are of crucial importance, yet without the true core, the communication will be shaky, the content will come across the wrong way, and there wont be any continuation!

Another element that we bring in that is often over-looked is one’s ability to use their communication skills efficiently! We do so by teaching both improvisation and public speaking as well!

What is one hindering bad habit you’ve found that a lot of guys possess when interacting with women?

At the level of inner game: Over-Investement; getting ahead of themselves by letting lust lead the way, which results in coming across as being too needy, instead of simply checking out what she’s about first, before rushing into drooling over how hot she is! And in terms of outer game, lack of following through, taking the girl’s first answer too seriously, not understanding that it’s all there for you to play with, and that NO is really the twisted root of YES!

Actually, the number one most limiting habit I’ve observed in thousands of men, and myself until I corrected it, LOL, is the misconception that a “good conversation” is enough to get a woman sufficiently attracted that she’ll want to act on it! So often you hear guys say, “I don’t understand, it was going well, but then she said she had to go!”, or “Why didn’t she call back?” The moment you’re in a “good conversation” and it appears to go well, that is really your first signal that you better start to smoothly escalate or you’ll end up with at best a flaky number!

Do you have a favorite routine or technique that you consistently use to meet and seduce women?

Day Game I use my O.C.Q.T. system and our daygame 4 phases flow chart technique followed by the sequential seduction model. Example would be…Notice a color match in a set…approach and say…”Girls, how did that happen? Now I got to ask you, quick question…both of you are wearing read, was it planned or it just happened?” They always say… “It just happened…” To which I reply…”Yea, yea, yea…Right, I bet you spent hours on the phone planning this, LOL!”. Then I lead into the topic of “How when people feel connected sometimes they may do things in sink…”, which opens the door to DHVs, patterns, cold reads, qualification questions, and demos…to create compliance and then sequential closing…

Night Game, I use lots of social proof and V.I.P. Game, and I get really outrageous…

Lately at BCs we’ve been getting guys to stand right by the entrance of a bar or lounge…and when women come in start right away with…”That was an interesting entrance, do you always arrive places that way???” Which is very disarming, LOL…Then on to…”Different people arrive in different ways, so you can tell a lot about a person just by the way they enter a place…Like so many of them seem to try so hard, like their walking with a broom in their but, LOL, but you seem more natural and friendly, what would you say…”

Got to be delivered rapidly, playfully, and from a place of leading…And what’s awesome about it, is that you then pretty much go through most of the women in the place…So it’s a form of “TRIAGE” from the start, LOL…Then we plant seeds to re-open…such as…”OK girls, can’t keep on blocking the way…I am sure we’ll run into you again…and I am wondering when we do…what type of party person you are…?”

“Are you the conservative type that will be in bed by midnight, or are you the wild type that will be the last one in the place???” This helps you to also asses early on what the logistics are…Then if there was no pull by closing time, you are again by the door re-opening all of them, and hooking them at that time…

How does meeting women in the day, let’s say at a supermarket, differ from meeting women in a nightclub?

Day game has to happen fast, because most of the time there’s a genuine time constraint on her side, and in most case, keeping her too long works against you! The plus side with day game is that it is less expected than in a club…Ultimately, you must meet women anywhere…As one of our trainer recommended when asked what his favorite venue was, and he said…THE WORLD!!!

With day game, there’s also the fact that they often are in motion, so it is an art form to learn how to get them to stop and stay, and this is one of the things I specialize in, as personally, from my first official day of Pickup, I would always approach everywhere! on our Power Pickup series, we even have a “cross-walk” routine that works incredibly well!

Do you have a success story from one of your students that you feel really illustrates the strength of your teachings?

Let’s take two extremes…On one side, older gentlemen, focused only on his business, not talked to women in years, after our introduction to phone game mastery 3 hour class, he got two numbers during that night…which for him was something he thought he could never do, especially with beautiful girls half his age.

On the other side, a guy who came in ready to be much more aggressive and took our Escalation Acceleration BC, during the “In Field” segment, KISS CLOSED a clerk at the Guess store, while she was working, in front of clients, and she liked it!!! They slept together a few nights after…And I don’t mean a mild kiss, broad day light heavy duty make-out!

What is the quickest way a guy who has little to no experience with women become a pick up artist?

Come to our bootcamps, LOL! Seriously, 3 crucial steps:

  1. Immerse, IMMERSE yourself into the material, study it DAILY as if your life depended on it, because it does…Fulfillment with women will make or break a man! It will affect your work, self esteem, health, so if you want the love and sex life of your dreams, there is no F*%cking around, GOT TO DO YOUR PART! AND DO IT…UNTIL!
  2. Talk to women DAILY from the very first day, AND BE WILLING TO NOT DO IT WELL, to run out of things to say, to hear no, to feel embarrassed, that is where to true growth is…
  3. Be willing to truly change…Let go of holding on to what limits you, and fully embrace what empowers you! Let go of ego, FREE yourself, and DO WHAT WORKS, and toss what doesn’t (in terms of your habits and ways of being…)! Very few guys will rise up to this level of commitment, but ALL of us are capable of it, and those who do, get all the rewards, those who don’t, are left with regrets…So if you’re reading this, ask yourself, which one will you be?

If someone wanted to take advantage of your services and products how would they go about doing so?

We’ll, first to thank those who took the time to read this inteview, we’ll send our full value FREE Day Game Drills CD when you email us at: Vince@SeductionCoaching.com, and tell us where to send it!

We also have a FREE global PUA conference call every Monday at 7 PST, and by the way, we’d love to have you on it and do a special on Attractology and your group!

And then simply go to both of our sites…

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I also founded and co-host the Annual PUA World Summit with Johnny Wolf (TheSocialSecrets.com), for that go to www.PUASummit.com, and thank you guys for the opportunity to be of service, I hope you’ve found great value in this interview…

Thank you for your time Vince.  We hope to hear from you soon.